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Help buying my first Vox

Started 11 months ago by alonsoroman

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alonsoroman

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Hi,
So im thinking on changing my amp into a Vox Ac15 or Ac30, i wanted to get some advising. it is very difficult for me to go to a store and try an amps (there are just a few Vox sellers in mexico city and they will only have 1 or 2.)

Im looking for an amp that can go from a clean bright tone to a nice overdrive and a sort of jazz eq/tone. I would also want an amp that can react well to fuzz pedals (fuzz factory, fuzz face) and any other pedals.

I would be using it mainly in my home, so if the volume needs to by very high the crank up the tubes, that might be something to think about it.

I would appreciate any kind of advise (:


Posted 11 months ago

 

dsouza

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Vox amps are great. The portion of your message that caught my eye was "I would be using it mainly in my home".

If you are simply playing by yourself or to backing tracks you will find the AC4 does the job. The AC15 and AC30 are not really meant for the home.

Are you a professional who will be gigging live shows in large arenas? If not and volume is an issue you will find the AC4 is loud enough.

Keep in mind it even has an attenuator which allows you to get maximum crunch at low volumes.

Also it is great to record off.

I play U2 , live in a condo and play to backing tracks and record for youtube. I use a vox AC4 and I only use it on 1/4 watt the lowest attenuage.

I have no need for 1 watt or 4 watts they are simply TOO loud in my area and will drown out my cd's backing tracks when recording.

I should mention I have my Vox ac4tv going into a 1x12 extension cab. I also use a number of pedals.

The AC15 is a more scalable solution and the AC30 is higher up the ladder but it might be overkill for what you want.

Bigger and Pricier doesn't mean it will meet your needs.

If you're going to play in a band soon with a loud drummer consider the ac15 or ac30 solutions.

Adrian


Posted 11 months ago

 

rwk2of3

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I second that. I picked up an AC4 earlier this year because I wanted to leave my AC30 at the practice space, but still have a tube amp to play at home. I run my AC4 at 1/4 watt setting at home and that works great. It really sounds great recorded as well. I'm not sure if I'd play out with it (it is pretty small), but it is quiet enough to play at home and still sound good. I wonder if it could be loud enough to keep up with a drummer. Have to try sometime.


Posted 11 months ago

 

alonsoroman

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Ok so i get the huge volume need for the tubes and that definetely is a con. Im not sure if i will get an AC4, i might need it to play out gigs with it and i think it would be a step backwards regarding my current amp (Marshall DSL 401). so im think im standing on a AC15 or 30 dilemma.

What's the difference between the 15 and 30? is it only an extra speaker, or does the sound quality change? I'm sure i would love a 30 but it seems just too much my budget and my needs


Posted 11 months ago

 

zwern188

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zwern188
 

The sound quality is absolutely different between the 15 and 30. They're both very good in their own right. Since you said you may be gigging, they could both handle that depending on the size of venues you'd be playing.

If you're going to play mostly venues that will put a microphone on your amp and mix it into a PA, I would go with the 15 - it'll still sound great and you won't have the sound guy tell you to turn it down all the time. If you're going to play medium to large venues without putting your amp through a microphone, I would go with the 30 - that will handle almost any situation very easily and still feel you have room to turn it up a little more if you have to.


Posted 11 months ago

 

rwk2of3

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If you gig, you will need a 15 or 30. I don't know how loud a 15 gets, but I've played outside with my 30 and I still don't think I had it past 50%. Tube amps are really loud and the two speakers move a lot of air. I can't imagine a 15 not being loud enough for just about anything. The 30 is also heavy ~70lbs, just something to consider. The 15 is probably much less than that, but I'm not sure.
Zwern188, what do you think the sound differences are between the 15 and 30? I'm curious.


Posted 11 months ago

 

zwern188

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zwern188
 

If you're going to be gigging and putting the amp through a microphone, the 15 and 30 can sound very similar. Without a microphone, the 30 gets a fuller sound. I've gigged with both and the 15 always left me wanting more depth. I will admit, I've never tried a twin 15 - that might give a similar amount of sonic depth at a lower volume.

Another big difference is with the 30 you can jump the normal and top boost channels together. Basically, the 30 just has more tonal possibilities and more headroom. With the master volume, you can still get great tone at any volume (though you have to give it a little more to hit the sweet spot with the speakers).

Like rwk said, you also have to consider how much weight you're willing to carry to each gig. I personally feel it's worth the workout to have a 30 on stage with me. Others may have other opinions.


Posted 11 months ago

 

voxman

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voxman
 

You might want to also consider the Night Train 15w head plus a cab. It has a 7.5w triode & 15w pentode mode plus a great 'thick' switch for crunch. It's light, compact, & has a carry bag too. Most importantly it has great tone - wonderful clean chimes to raucious crunch. I did a couple of you-tube demo's with it through the V112TV 1x12" cab (the one that goes with the AC4TV Head). The first vid was 'straight' with no external FX. The second, I used the TLST for reverb/delay and a little chorus - but no amp/cab modeling!

The NT15 doesn't have reverb or tremolo - but it's a cracking little amp & I loved it. And if you go anywhere that has cabs, you can travel light & just take the NT15.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXldsy4mz6M&list=UUetY4XChXkyzOVNukNQIBZw&index=7&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w8SpPsCRlw&list=UUetY4XChXkyzOVNukNQIBZw&index=6&feature=plcp


Posted 11 months ago

 

rwk2of3

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My favorite AC30 sound demo (pretty good player too): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJzjHrJqOcw


Posted 11 months ago

 

colchar

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For those saying the AC15 is too loud for home use - I use mine at home all the time, including late at night when others are sleeping, and it sounds great. The master volume allows it to be used at reasonable volume levels.


Posted 11 months ago

 

dsouza

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colchar

Whats the point in using the master volume on an Ac15 and turning the sound low to use in the home when you can buy an AC4 for a fraction of the price? The way I look at it master volume only works so well.. Those tubes are meant to be pushed!


Posted 10 months ago

 

dsouza

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colchar , do you live in a house or condo/apartment? Just curious. Also do you mainly play "clean" sounding music at night?

I play a lot of U2 so I need to ramp up the gain quite a bit on a lot of songs. I'm afraid I'd love a 15 watt amp but I don't even use my ac4 over 1/4 watt for fear of pissing of the neighbours.

Also keep in mind a stock ac4 without distorion/overdrive or boost will not sound as loud as an ac4 fed through a 12" cab with distortion/overdrive/clean boost

It makes a huge difference.


Posted 10 months ago

 

rwk2of3

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BTW, Voxman, I liked your video demos. My Zep post (sound demo) wasn't in response to your posts. I just happen to love that video and thought of it. I wasn't trying to be snarky. It seemed that way after posted it and reread the threads. Didn't mean it that way, if it looked it.

Alonsoroman, have you had any more thoughts?


Posted 10 months ago

 

alonsoroman

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voxman, great demos and great amps.

rwk2of3, great tone. i love the OD on the amp. heres a tone i love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6Hm8SXcFi8

Yeah, so i decided im getting an ac15. Not really sure if c1 or c2


Posted 10 months ago

 

alonsoroman

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i thought the difference between ac15c1 and ac15c2 was the blue alnico and not a twin speaker.


Posted 10 months ago

 

voxman

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voxman
 

Glad you liked the vids guys - rwk2of3...no idea why you thought you were being narky but nothing wrong with your post whatsoever and all totally cool ; )


Posted 10 months ago

 

rwk2of3

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Voxman, I probably can't tell when I am and aren't snarky anymore.

Alonsoroman, thanks for the update! If you do play out, you will have a good amp for that. Volume-wise, that 15 watts will be loud enough for anything. I have a friend who had a 100W Marshall half-stack and it sounded great, but it was loud and if you play a show big enough to warrant that amount of power, you are probably mic'd and don't need it anyway. BTW, the tone on that link you posted was great. Kind of an interesting band, have to check them out. Thanks for the post!


Posted 10 months ago

 

hallam

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Hi
Could anyone advise me on what amp ac15c1 or ac15c2.
i play hank marvin tunes and want to buy a qualty amp
Thanks
Martin


Posted 10 months ago

 

chojinkid

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I still hear the same vibe of an AC30 from my AC15, I A/Bd my AC15C1 with an AC30TB from the 90s and the voicing was exactly the same, the AC15 was just a little brightier due to the smaller chassis and single speaker and have much less headroom, end of the differences, those who say the AC15 is a completely a different amp compared to an AC30 is probably referring to the previous series and so on, the AC15C1 really resembles a smaller AC30 now, having the normal channel and the tone cut, and as for the loudness the AC15 is only 3db quiter than the AC30, not so much difference.

And for the guy who justifies the use of an AC15 at home just because it has the master volume I remind you that a low master volume really takes out all the sweetness of this amp, there's really no point unless you're just after a very clean tone, but personally what I like about vox amps is tube distortion.


Posted 10 months ago

 

colchar

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dsouza – I bought the AC15 instead of the AC4 because I do not play exclusively at low volumes and, to my mind, the AC15 is a far superior amp. Why buy something that sounds small and boxy if I need to buy a cab to improve the sound when I can just get a better amp in the first place? I live in a house and play both clean and overdriven stuff. I can get dirt at low volumes when I play late at night and, if I want really dirty sounds I can just use a pedal at night.


Posted 9 months ago

 

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